July 04, 1985 - Comparing the Old and Newl);: e 12A
The Suffolk Times
Comparing the O/d and New
By PAUL, STOUTENBURGH
Barbara and 1 had one of those rare
experiences last week that we'll re-
member for a long time. We spent the
week at camp with a group of Board of
Cooperative Education students study-
ing the changing East End.
We were part of a group of 125 stu-
dents and instructors from BOCES III
who had come to the Peconic Dunes
Camp as part of a unique educational
experience..Each instructor had his own
group of students who had selected that
course for a six -day sdlid -- and I mean
solid -- session. Just listen to this
routine: up at 6 a.m. for canoeing, boat-
ing, tennis or jo ' reakfast for all
at 8 a.m.: classlrom 9 to 12; lunch. at
12:30; and activities again until 2:30;
class through the afternoon until 5:30;
dinner at 6; and more activities from
6:30 to 8:80. Then class ran again from
8:30 until 11:30 p.m. By then everyone,
inciud.lg the instructors, was ready for
bed.
Our class was away from camp most
of the time. We traveled the beaches,
woods and marshlands, the Sound, the
hay and the ocean. Our visits included
the Indian Museum, a horse farm, a
solar home, a grape farm, a potato farm
and a hydroponic farm. We also visited
a fish market, an oyster farm, the seed
clarn program and even the town land-
fill. We visited the Pine Barrens, they
Quogue Wildlife Sanctuary, Shin -'
necack Inlet and studied the drifting
sands of our beaches. In between we
identified plants, trees, birds and ani-
mals 1 hat make the East End so unique.
The idea was to give the students an
insight into the natural world and how
we as a town are using our natural re-
sources.
At first it was a gathering of facts,
Focus on
Nature
but as the week progressed the pieces
started to fall in place. The students
saw the changes in our agriculture --
how horse farms, grape farms, sod
farms and nursery crops are filling in
the once - productive potato farms. We
also studied the problems relating to
development, the loss of open space,
congestion and the change in rural liv-
ing.
We told the story of how the ospreys
declined because of pesticides, how tern
colonies once prominent here are being
driven out by people pressure, how our
waterfront is changing from the old
traditional occupations to con-
dominiums. The students became
aware of the limited water supply the
East end has beneath it. It was a week
of education not only for the students
but for the instructors.
I'll never forget the first day of our
adventures. We had chosen a spot
where there were woods, a marsh and
a 'beautiful beach. As I walked along
explaining this and that to make them
more comfortable with the area I felt
resentment taking over. I asked myself
why had they signed up for this course
if they were going to be so indifferent.
Perhaps it was because some of the stu-
dents had been "cooled down" on a dis-
cipline•problem the evening before and
were now showing their resentment. .
Many rate it didn't last long, for the
charm of the Zeneski's farm upon on
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• Paint and stain
• Prime replacment
and storm windows
• Sheet rock
• Ventilators and
equipment
• Waterproofing
'products
• Wood shingles
• Lumber
• Many more items
July 4, 1985
Photo by Paul Stoutenburgh
OUTDOOR EDUCATION - -The unique features of the East End make
our area ideal as outdoor laboratories for teaching. Young and old can
benefit from learning about the world around them.
Oregon Road opened the kids' hearts.
They went into the fields and saw how
potatoes grew, inspected the potato
storage barn, petted the rabbits and
even milked the goat. From then on we
became one big happy family traveling
from spot to spot.
Pack Up to Head Home
When the time came for them all to
pack up and go, teary eyes and lumps
in all our throats took over. We had
hoped they'd learned something about
the world about them and how each part
of this wonderful East End is closely
attached to another, but probably the
most important part was the interac -'
tion of the kids with each other and our-
selves. We became a close -knit team.
Theother classes were all being held
back at camp, except the marine biology
class that met at the Suffolk County
Community . College Cedar Beach
Marine Center. What a deal. Classes
were out for the year and they had the
whole area to themselves. We visite
the marine center on one of our beach
walks and had a fine presentation by
Chuck McCarthy, the assistant profes-
sor there. Like so many other things
here on the East End, little is known
about this great facility by the general
public. It provides one of the few places
in the country where a student can get
a two -year degree in marine technol-
ogy.
Our camp experience last week
(continued on page 16A)
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Being Heard •
William Romanchuk (left), vice
president of the county's United
East End Seniors Council, and
Richard M. Kessel, executive di-
rector of the state Consumer Pro-
tection Board, mull over the
Shoreham nuclear plant issue
June 11 after Mr. Kessel testified
during a County Legislature hear-
ing that Long Island's geographi-
cal set -up makes evacuation im-
possible. The Seniors Council op-
poses the plant's opening.
Focus...
(continued from page 12A)
proved once again to us that any educa-
tional instruction is only as good as its
instructors. Dr. Hannah Masterson and
the people she picked for this one -week
intensive study and play were most im-
pressive. Our only disappointment was
that we weren't able to get better ac-
quainted with these outstanding
educators. Everyone was too busy. Each
had been selected for his or her own
special skills. However, we found the
week a•rare opportunity to expose these
young bright minds to the world of the
East End in hopes that they would get
a better feeling of how we live out here
and for what.
Being involved as I am in the many
facets of our East End, I often hear
negative comments about "Big
Brother" -- how the government moves
in and we lose control. The area of Cedar
Beach, with its beautiful beaches and
unique marine facility, and the Peconic
Dunes Camp are perfect examples of
just how good county involvement can
be.
We objected when the county wanted
to take over Orient Point years ago.
Now, with the threat of housing and the
loss of access to the point, there is a
real need for the county to step in and
preserve it. Let's hope they will, for
there are some projects that can be done
better by the county. It is they who have
the greater resources and it is the
people who have the real need for more
of these unique facilities to visit, enjoy
and to use for educational purposes.
Custer...
(continued from previous page) _
10:30 a.m.-noon, Soundview Inn,
Greenport. Court fee. Shirley Darling
will give basic instruction including
forehand, backhand, serve, volley, foot-
work, etc. Session II. Tuesdays, July 16-
Aug. 20, 6 -7:30 p.m., same as above.
UKRANIAN EGG DECORATION
-- Five Mondays, July 15-Aug. 12, 7 -9
p.m. Olga Lomaga, skilled in this spec-
ialized art from eastern Europe, is the
instructor. Students are to supply a
dozen raw eggs to first class sessinn_
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Jtily 4, 1985
Business & Real
The New Mr. Pres
Charles Cardona of Southold has been named
Institute in Southold. The district coordinator
schools, Mr. Cardona is a composer, conduc
Monday Night Band. H'ucceeds George Lon
new officers are: John Sepenoski of Southold,
Lebkuecher of Jamesport, treasurer; Ariel Karl
ary; John Bonderchuk of Orient, director; and
Southold, director.
Army Corps Action
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
approved three local applications for
work in local waterways in May.
The first approval was for applicant
Carlo DeGaudenzi of Ole Jule Lane,
Mattituck, who proposed the construc-
tion of a bulkhead, ramp, and float in
James Creek, Mattituck. He also plan-
ned to dredge and place fill in James
Creek.
Douglas Creighton of Hobart Road,
Southold, won permission to construct
a pier, ramp, floats and piles in Sterling
Basin, Shelter Island Sound at Green -
port.
New Rotary Officers
GREENPORT - -At its annual instal-
lation dinner on June 28, the Greenport
Rotary Club installed the following new
officers: Colin Van Tuyl as president,
vice president John Sabatino, secretary
Anthony Leone and treasurer John
Geideman.
Rotarian of the Year Robert Levy was
honored, as were Robert Winternitz and
William Hempel, named as Paul Harris
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Page 12A The Suffolk Times July 4, 1985
Comparing the O/d and New
By PAUL STOUTENBURGH
Barbara and I had one of those rare
experiences last week that we'll re-
member for a long time. We spent the
week at camp with a group of Board of
Cooperative Education students study-
ing the changing East End.
We were part of a group of 125 stu-
dents and instructors from BOCES III
who had come to the Peconic Dunes
Camp as part of a unique educational
experience. Each instructor had his own
group of students who had selected that
course for a six -day solid -- and I mean
solid -- session. Just listen to this
routine: up at 6 a.m. for canoeing, boat-
ing, tennis or jogging; breakfast for all
at 8 a.m.; class from 9 to 12; lunch at
12:30; and activities again until 2:30;
class through the afternoon until 5:30;
dinner at 6; and more activities from
6:30 to 8:30. Then class ran again from
8:30 until 11:30 p.m. By then everyone,
including the instructors, was ready for
bed.
Our class was away from camp most
of the time. We traveled the beaches,
woods and marshlands, the Sound, the
bay and the ocean. Our visits included
the Indian Museum, a horse farm, a
solar home, a grape farm, a potato farm
and a hydroponic farm. We also visited
a fish market, an oyster farm, the seed
clam program and even the town land-
fill. We visited the Pine Barrens, the
Quogue Wildlife Sanctuary, Shin -
necock Inlet and studied the drifting
sands of our beaches. In between we
identified plants, trees, birds and ani-
mals that make the East End so unique.
The idea was to give the students an
insight into the natural world and how
we as a town are using our natural re-
sources.
At first it was a gathering of facts
Focus on
Nature
but as the week progressed the pieces
started to fall in place. The students
saw the changes in our agriculture --
how horse farms, grape farms, sod
farms and nursery crops are filling in
the once - productive potato farms. We
also studied the problems relating to
development, the loss of open space,
congestion and the change in rural liv-
ing.
We told the story of how the ospreys
declined because of pesticides, how tern
colonies once prominent here are being
driven out by people pressure, how our
waterfront is changing from the old
traditional occupations to con-
dominiums. The students became
aware of the limited water supply the
East end has beneath it. It was a week
of education not only for the students
but for the instructors.
I'll never forget the first day of our
adventures. We had chosen a spot
where there were woods, a marsh and
a beautiful beach. As I walked along
explaining this and that to make them
more comfortable with the area I felt
resentment taking over. I asked myself
why had they signed up for this course
if they were going to be so indifferent.
Perhaps it was because some of the stu-
dents had been "cooled down" on a dis-
cipline problem the evening before and
were now showing their resentment.
At any rate it didn't last long, for the
charm of the Zeneski's farm upon on
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OUTDOOR EDUCATION - -The unique features of the East End make
our area ideal as outdoor laboratories for teaching. Young and old can
benefit from learning about the world around them.
Oregon Road opened the kids' hearts.
They went into the fields and saw how
potatoes grew, inspected the potato
storage barn, petted the rabbits and
even milked the goat. From then on we
became one big happy family traveling
from spot to spot.
Pack Up to Head Home
When the time came for them all to
pack up and go, teary eyes and lumps
in all our throats took over. We had
hoped they'd learned something about
the world about them and how each part
of this wonderful East End is closely
attached to another, but probably the
most important part was the interac-
tion of the kids with each other and our-
selves. We became a close -knit team.
The other classes were all being held
back at camp, except the marine biology
class that met at the Suffolk County
Community College Cedar Beach
Marine Center. What a deal. Classes
were out for the year and they had the
whole area to themselves. We visited
the marine center on one of our beach
walks and had a fine presentation by
Chuck McCarthy, the assistant profes-
sor there. Like so many other things
here on the East End, little is known
about this great facility by the general
public. It provides one of the few places
in the country where a student can get
a two -year degree in marine technol-
ogy.
Our camp experience last week
(continued on page 16A)
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• Prime replacment
• Aluminum Siding
and storm windows
• Asbestos Siding
• Sheet rock
• Vinyl Siding
• Ventilators and
• Asphalt Products
equipment
• Doors (alum. & wood)
• Waterproofing
• Insulation -(foam
products
and fiberglass)
• Wood shingles
• Nails, tools, etc.
• Lumber
• Paint and stain
• Many more items
WADING RIVER STAMEN NESCONSET
929 - 8200 265 -8888
SOUND AVE.(RTE. 25A) STAMEN eU1�Lurw 1M 822 JERICHO TPKE
Photo by Paul Stoutenburgh
OUTDOOR EDUCATION - -The unique features of the East End make
our area ideal as outdoor laboratories for teaching. Young and old can
benefit from learning about the world around them.
Oregon Road opened the kids' hearts.
They went into the fields and saw how
potatoes grew, inspected the potato
storage barn, petted the rabbits and
even milked the goat. From then on we
became one big happy family traveling
from spot to spot.
Pack Up to Head Home
When the time came for them all to
pack up and go, teary eyes and lumps
in all our throats took over. We had
hoped they'd learned something about
the world about them and how each part
of this wonderful East End is closely
attached to another, but probably the
most important part was the interac-
tion of the kids with each other and our-
selves. We became a close -knit team.
The other classes were all being held
back at camp, except the marine biology
class that met at the Suffolk County
Community College Cedar Beach
Marine Center. What a deal. Classes
were out for the year and they had the
whole area to themselves. We visited
the marine center on one of our beach
walks and had a fine presentation by
Chuck McCarthy, the assistant profes-
sor there. Like so many other things
here on the East End, little is known
about this great facility by the general
public. It provides one of the few places
in the country where a student can get
a two -year degree in marine technol-
ogy.
Our camp experience last week
(continued on page 16A)
W "AVIN%%I BAN C,
r �N)l� 1Ff c. �...
• RIVERNEAO (Main Ofno&) 7 W Mein 9t 727 9600 - RNERNIEAO.iss G 1 nq m-, ya' '�
Equal • EABT NORTNPORT 580 ta.Wd Rd 35H 5.�0o0o • LAKE RROVE ,,8?SM ddltl C-.1, y pd 56$.l 100 In -
opPO.tunny tentle� ^ SAY SNORE F.. Main S1 958 bkt) NUATN LINDEN"" F,. S� n tsa H y 880,pwo I.6Nb R
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July 4
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July 5
Friday
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July 6
Saturday
6:00 pm to midnight
ACTIVITIES: In the big top main tent we feature the ADAM BARTHALT
ORCHESTRA AND BAVARIAN DANCERS.
THE FOOD TENT: Offers continuous on the spot cooking of a variety of
German favorites ... • Knockwurst • Bratwurst • Longwurst • Potato
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IN THE BEER TENT: Of course you will find ice cold delicious German
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Follow the signs on Route 347 or Route 25A.
July 4, 1985
Being Heard
William Romanchuk (left), vice
president of the county's United
East End Seniors Council, and
Richard M. Kessel, executive di-
rector of the state Consumer Pro-
tection Board, mull over the
Shoreham nuclear plant issue
June 11 after Mr. Kessel testified
during a County Legislature hear-
ing that Long Island's geographi-
cal set -up makes evacuation im-
possible. The Seniors Council op-
poses the plant's opening.
Foe=..
..
(continued from page 12A)
proved once again to us that any educa-
tional instruction is only as good as its
instructors. Dr. Hannah Masterson and
the people she picked for this one -week
intensive study and play were most im-
pressive. Our only disappointment was
that we weren't able to get better ac-
quainted with these outstanding
educators. Everyone was too busy. Each
had been selected for his or her own
special skills. However, we found the
week a rare opportunity to expose these
young bright minds to the world of the
East End in hopes that they would get
a better feeling of how we live out here
and for what.
Being involved as I am in the many
facets of our East End, I often hear
negative comments about "Big
Brother" -- how the government moves
in and we lose control. The area of Cedar
Beach, with its beautiful beaches and
unique marine facility, and the Peconic
Dunes Camp are perfect examples of
just how good county involvement can
be.
We objected when the county wanted
to take over Orient Point years ago.
Now, with the threat of housing and the
loss of access to the point, there is a
real need for the county to step in anti
preserve it. Let's hope they will, for
there are some projects that can be done
better by the county. It is they who have
the greater resources and it is the
people who have the real need for more
of these unique facilities to visit, enjoy
and to use for educational purposes.
Custer...
(continued from previous page)
10:30 a.m. -noon, Soundview Inn,
Greenport. Court fee. Shirley Darling
will give basic instruction including
forehand, backhand, serve, volley, foot-
work, etc. Session II. Tuesdays, July 16-
Aug. 20, 6 -7:30 p.m., same as above.
UKRANIAN EGG DECORATION
-- Five Mondays, July 15 -Aug. 12, 7 -9
p.m. Olga Lomaga, skilled in this spec-
ialized art from eastern Europe, is the
instructor. Students are to supply a
dozen raw eggs to first class session.
Participants can purchase a kit of
paints and tools.
YOGA -- Five Thursdays, July 18-
Aug. 15, 9 -11 a.m. Linda Fletcher, class
instructor, is a certified Hatha Yoga
teacher. She will introduce the physical
aspects of yoga.